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What a joke of a column! The Boyz were comprhensively outplayed, and it was not all about altitude. Burrell has his dogs writing for him everywhere.

Debillitating altitude, my foot; Howard walker as a sports writer you are not helping Jamaica football.

Where is your ink about excluded UK players going on for a years now.

Where is your football perception questioning the JFF notion that the quality of locals is sufficient, and the spurious idea that we need to expose the yutes?

Put the pen down brethern or go focus on badmington, boomarang or some other beach sport if you're not up to the task of helping Jamaica's football.

Distrib, Ric, Kirkrieb, Technic all 'ites let's all get after Howard Walker.

here's is email:

walkerh@jamaicaobserver.com

Mek we try tough him up and expose whatever football ignorance him have as a sports writer....

This the email I just sent him....

Howard if you haven't yet, you need to check out thereggaeboyz.com to see how the fans feel regarding this current crop of players. And the diservice to the fans of the JFF not providing clear understanding of why UK base nationals are being excluded in favor of a local base outfit which is not ready for this level of football.

You as a sports writer bear the responsibility for asking the JFF the tough pointed questions as to the exclusion of players in England's premier league and Championship. Some of these pros have already express their alegience to Jamaica.

As a matter of fact probably unbeknowing to you it was 17 year old on thereggaeboyz.com site who is in contact with the JFF office brought some of these players to their attention a few months ago, and that's when they began to make some kind of contact; that's crazy

The Jamaica football Federation it seems doesn't have much clue as to the extent of what's available to them in England, and I'm not talking about the FULLERS, BIBI, STEW PEAS etc. Right now over a dozen players avalaible to us from the premier league to the championship and it's as if they don't know what to do.

We need your feedback on thereggaeboyz.com

If they lost 2-1 or 1-0 then I could say the altitude was a huge factor in them losing, but watching the game and seeing the how sloppy the defensive marking was, how poor the passing was, how tactically naive they were as a team, I know why they lost that badly.

Make no mistake about it, the altitude does and did have an effect on the player that were not use to it. Notice, for me at least, Cummings was Jamaica's best player and he plays his club football in Denver about a mile above sea level. However, knowing all these things, why was the game so open? why was the marking so poor? I remember one of the goals from a corner the attacker stood on the 6 yard box and made a free header, unacceptable and nothing to do with the altitude.

As Lincs say, these games are for the mistakes to be made AND TO BE LEARNED FROM. Hopefully Tappa took his notes well and makes the adjustments for next time and most importantly for the big games.

Brethren if we sey we love Jamaica football, let's do what we can do with our computers. Let's get email address of these cats in the JFF and let them know as lovers of Jamaica football we demand accountability.

Let's challenge their thinking; we want answers for their sometimes crazy football decisions.....

Mek we do something...

Jamatl & Jyute we email addresses of these JFF cats...

Jamaica's starting line up included 4 local ballas and every balla coming into the game from the bench; Adrian Reid aside, where in heaven's sake would a team of local Jamaican players be able to play any decent side in the world and produce a good performance, much less win ?!

Memba sey Ric tell unnu sey, Carl Brown and Cayman, as Cayman playing now will tun ova any likkle dibby dibby local DPL Jamaica ball side the JFF have the temerity and facetiness to put pon the field 'gainst dem, trust mi.

It was really pitiful to watch last night; mi watch the first 5 minutes and that was enough.

Adrian Reid is a coming likkle balla but im afi play wid the big balla dem to improve.

Mi not even going to comment on the shit that dis likkle Burrel arse-licker reporter has written because if Burrell hav dem all inna im pocket so, the future for Jamaica's football is very dim indeed.

And, on top of all dat, if this is what the JFF is putting out to tempt the professional players in the EPL and Championship and SPL to declare loyalty and committ to play international football for Jamaica, then even Boxhill wuuda do betta dan dis; at least he had Marlon King around to cuss out im claat at the time when Jamaica's administrators started to lose the plot.

All mi can do is shake mi head

Mi a dead fi laugh wen mi remember how Jeffrey Webb used to control and pick Cayman side back in my day; is only when Chung Fah did come first time wen the best balla dem inna Cayman, including miself, get a chance fi pull on a national jersey and represent the country.

Well, Horace Burrell and Jeffrey Webb a the same ting; dem two man deh don't know jack shit about football or footballers...

To Burrell and Webb, every man who string up a pair a football boots is a balla, no difference...

So, in Burrell's world, Jamaica's DPL amateurs are the same as the EPL ballas like Darren Pratley or the SPL balla like Chris Humphrey who he could at least invite to play for Jamaica and give them the choice...

Inna Burrell's understanding one balla is the same as another so im won't understand why a likkle dibby dibby DPL local balla Jamaica side wuuda pick up 5-2 inna Quito, Ecuador.

Mi a dead fi laugh tru mi just a suss out dis ting when mi memba mi past dealings wid im and Jeff Webb inna Cayman in the last few years

Lesson learned local league veteran defenders no ride fi dis!!!!

I know twitter is not really official and all but the j.f.f is saying they will be looking at some English based players in the near future on their twitter account.

Questions to be answered, Jamaica vs Ecuador
September 3, 2011 | Filed underArticles,Jamaica National Teams,National News,News,Teams | Posted by JamFedadmin
Jamaica marked their return to South American soil with a dissapointing 5-2 loss in Quito, Ecuador in the Estadio Olimpico today. Jamaica started out with a 3-4-2-1 formation. To many this was the first questionable move made by Tappa, as in the past we have gave South American teams a run for there money playing with a 4-2-2 formation. Most recently against Argentina in Mar del Plata Last year.

Omar Cummings has a record of not finding the back of the net when he plays alone upfront, but once he has support as we saw today with the presence of Ryan Johnson, Cummings got his goal. For the majority of the game Jamaica played very flat and their overlapping movements from defense to attack were unsuccessful, as the Ecuadorian wing backs were a touch faster. The Ecuadorians’ strengths are the set pieces and 2 of the 5 goals came from set pieces. So Jamaica was caught ball watching at crucial times. The question must now be asked…”Did altitude play a huge affect here?”.

Despite the defeat Jamaica did not give up and got 2 goals for there efforts from Demar Phillips and Omar Cummings. Up next for the Boyz is Colombia in Lockhart Stadium which will be be another learning experience for our Boyz. The Fans are starting to ask why are we not seeing English based players anymore? Its been 11 months since an English based player played in the Reggae Boyz jersey. This should be a wake up call to Tappa, Montesso and the Gamma Family that English based players are NECESSARY, CRUCIAL and VITAL for Jamaica in preparation to getting on the plane to Brazil for the 2014 World Cup

Writer: Simon Preston
Editor: Russell Morgan

http://www.jamaicafootballfederation.com/v1/2011/09/03/questions-to-be-answered-jamaica-vs-ecuador/

We need defenders who are exposed to a higher level of football. Saw alot of ball watching and bad man marking. We've identified mostly English based midfielders and forwards. What about defenders??

Is Shaun Francis still injured? What about Woobine? I know these guy don't play in top leagues but at least they may offer better quality.

There are plenty, Nosworthy, Simpson, Nathan Smith, etc. Not to mention Pepe, Stewart, and Davis.

[quote=Hamilton Israel]Distrib, Ric, Kirkrieb, Technic all 'ites let's all get after Howard Walker.

here's is email:

walkerh@jamaicaobserver.com

These reporters must be kept honest. Email sent.

Howard Walker responded to my email...

Thanks Israel, actually on Thursday I asked Horace Reid, the JFF Gen Sec, about ur very queries.


Howard Walker
Journalist,
Jamaica Observer

And why was that not included in the match report... steups

He also sent me this....



The Football Academy
The Jamaica Football Federation
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Are we “avoiding” UK Based players?

September 3, 2011 | Filed underArticles,News | Posted by JamFedadmin

October 10, 2010 was the last time Jamaica fielded a UK based player, Ricardo Fuller. It has now nearly 11 months since we have seen a UK based player in Black, Green and Gold and it is certainly a cause for concern. We must ask Tappa and Company, “Are we ‘avoiding’ UK Based Players?”.

It is my belief that UK based players play a huge role in the development of football at the international level. They bring years of experience, tactical discipline and technical ability that wins the hearts of Jamaicans fans all the time. At this point in time the fans are growing restless, we are about 10 months away from the 2014 World Cup Qualifiers and we have yet to experiment with UK based players.

As I have said before we are just a few pieces away from completing the puzzle and stand an extremely strong chance of getting on that plane to Brazil. Technically, all we need is a solid Centre Back, Central Midfielder, Winger and an additional Striker. The general core of the team is good and I believe that with these additions Jamaica WILL reap more fruitful rewards in the near future.

Darren Pratley is a 25 year old Central Midfielder who plays for Bolton Wanderers in the English Premier League. He just moved from Swansea City where he assisted in their promotion to the Premier League. His tactical vision, sound mind and strong presence made a difference at Swansea, that is what Jamaica needs at the middle of the park right now.

When John Barnes was manager he called Pratley up; but days before the game Pratley received an injury. It is now time for Pratley to come back.

Chris Humphrey is a 23 year old winger who plays for Motherwell F.C. in the Scottish Premier League. Chris is reckoned to be the 17th fastest winger in the UK, he played an integral role in Motherwell’s Europa League season last season. Humphrey was called up to the Jamaica team prior to the Gold Cup this Year, but his mother had a stroke days before the tournament. Chris can terrorize the opposition with his speed, cleverness and dead ball skills.

Zavon Hines is a 22 year old striker who plays for Burnley F.C. in the Championship, who recently moved from West Ham. Zavon Hines was called up by John Barnes in 2009 for an international friendly vs Nigeria but he did not feature. Former West Ham and England International Dean Aston said Zavon is one to watch for the future as he is a very lethal striker in front of goal.

These pieces will fit in nicely into the pool of players and they will play an integral role in getting to Brazil. Now is the time to step up.

Writer:Simon Preston
Editor:Russell Morgan

HI, why did you have to go through all that drama? You could have gone straight to JamaicanYouth......

i know that every reggae boyz fans is upset by the selections that our current JFF are making but u have to realize that not all the players want to play for jamaica....for e.g. JERMAINE PENNANT, he would rather play for Ireland than to play for us...and DANIEL STURRIDGE, its only a matter of time before he plays for england so that would be a waste of time calling him up.... Now to the players we do have like RICARDO FULLER N RICARDO GARDENER, CLAUDE DAVIS, AND THE STEWARTS....they are all 32 plus n wud not make any sense to be called up bcuz they will be too old for the squad for 2014...so even though im upset about our defense line n been humiliated by Ecuador im nt too worried about it bcuz even J.TAYLOR N DIC.WILLIAMS didnt play yesterday so i wouldnt be too worried about that....


S.N.. Dont get me wrong, i wud love to see the english based play like even J.JOHNSON n J.CAMPBELL-RYCE, R.FULLER, O.THOMPSON(hvnt heard much about him)...

As I have said before we are just a few pieces away from completing the puzzle and stand an extremely strong chance of getting on that plane to Brazil. Technically, all we need is a solid Centre Back, Central Midfielder, Winger and an additional Striker. The general core of the team is good and I believe that with these additions Jamaica WILL reap more fruitful rewards in the near future.

I thihk most of us on this site beg to differ with this assumption. Let's see if this thinking holds to reason.

I think we are more than just a few pieces way. Even if this was the case, how many national teams take this approach. As Link says players get injured, players loose passports, players loose them minds.....

Spain the no. 1 or 2 team in the world, their starting 11 has all the wow factors in their attack; Xavi, Silva, Iniesta, Villa, Alonso, Busquets,Torres, etc.

Now, how many "pieces" a side like this needs ?

We don't hear their FA saying just add a few more pieces, no. They fly the gate and let in their calvary: FABREGAS, THIAGO PEDRO, MATA, NAVAS, NEGREDO, LORIENTE,CARZOLA, BRUNO SORIANO, BORJA VALERO

Count it that is 17 midfielders and attacking players, and none of them are fillers. These players are the focal point of their respective teams.

On the R'boyz roster consist our attackers consist of:

Jason Morrison
Omar Daley
Damian Williams
Jevaughn Watson
Rodolph Austin
Keammar Daley
Omar Cummings
Luton Shelton
Ryan Johnson
Dane Richards
Demar Phillips
Eric Vernan

These are basically the 12 attackers we've being using on a consistent basis. I've excluded FULLER & BIBI for obvious reasons.

These selections have being looked at over and over, we know what to expect from them and we've seen significant improvement among this group.

We all had hope for them and saw some really good things in the first 3 GCC matches. The next test was the USA, and surely enough they exposed our weakness glaringly.

When one look at our overall performance against this USA team we basically were over matched. Our midfield in particular simply wasn't good enough to theirs. I'm not saying through the baby out with the bath water, but if we are seriouly thinking of not only making it to Brazil but to improve our team to be a consistent contender to the ConCaCaf hierarchy, then this 12 I've just mentioned is not good enough to challenge ConCaCaf hierarchy.

That is reality....

If Spain the no. 1 team can have on their present roster, not fringe players, but17 highly technical players and searching , who is Jamaica to say: "we only need a few pieces to complete the squad..."

That is a "settling" mind set, poor man's thinking I might add, small mindedness.

Our football Hierarchy it seems needs a lesson in ambition.

Since we are no where near what we could become, we need to fly the gate...

If it's a dozen players we have in the English Premier league & Championship we should give them all a fair chance to compete for a spot with our present roster. No one should be excluded based on a faulty notion that we have "enough pieces" in place.

I do not believe the JFF have this kind of mindset to allow all qualified (those who say yes to us & potential ones) players, in the UK to compete equally.

I can think of a few hindrances to the JFF thinking this way: 1; they don't want to infringe on the local base players they are trying to expose.... What? wrong thinking here..

The JFF responsibility suppose to be this to the local base: to provide a viable professional league condusive to players development; to provide good technical licence coaches, viable infrastructure and organization across the island. This is where their responsibility ends.

If the JFF think they are responsible to expose players then they are assuming the job of football agents.

The R'BOYZ is not the place where a player come seeking exposure. It's their hard, work ethic, dominating the our local league, catching the eyes of TAPPA, getting a call up to the squad base on their performance and work already put in. It's their hard work is their main exposure along with an agent doing due deligence to shop them around the world. The JFF need to change their mind set here.

2; The Jff may think with the inclusion of too many UK 'ites it would hinder the growth and development of the local base. This is another spurious notion.

What hinders the local base growth and development has more to do with what goes on in our league set up Jamaica and the work ethic or lack of it among the coaches and players.

How can the addition of professionals if handled right and professionally be an hindrance to those not in the same environment? If anything it should aide our local base development; in the local base meeting with and practicing with the UK 'ites and learning of what it takes to make it on that level....

3;
The JFF may feel our football soup cannot accommodate too many "foreign born" nationals, that it may spoil the broth.

No one is saying to do this all at once, but there has to be a plan of action because all of them may not make it. But our goal should be to get as much and solidify our team.

If anything they would bring a level of competiveness for a roster spot that would be healthy for our overall team.

There has to be a revolution in thinking regarding Jamaica's football. If all we are thinking of is to make the 2014 WC then we are settling and not looking to the future...

I'll post now, don't want this to be too long

Want to talk about STURRIDGE next...