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 Originally Posted By: Blessed Love
All that the Montesso, the McIntosh, Tappa, the Observer, Horace Burrrel and the Horace Reid a do right now, are things that we are already aware of.....although, it is a good thing that they are coming out of the woods with some info. So, as the saying goes, "better late than never," that must be their number one motto/phrase. There's little time at hand now, to get the best eligible players to start working together, so that they can gel and build good team chemistry. So, guys what we are waiting for is the "action," to see the program get off the ground, and that's when we start seeing you use our top class quality players on the field in games.

"We can reap success by having a very good team that can compete with high standards of play, from the steady infusion of new talented players into the squad, and not a bag of mouth....talk is cheap!!!" Let's go!!

Now! on the other hand, have you notice what they have already started with the foreign-based players? They're now saying that the foreign-based players will not be treated any different from the local-based players, but my question to them is, "then why are they treated differently in the first place?" Because, from my observations they were not giving the same share to equal opportunity, to have time to gel in the system like the other set of players we have been stooping-down to their levels for over some two years now, trying to force them into suppen that they are not ready for. Also, to include the other new local-based recruits and not the foreign-based recruits, especially the new (foreign-born), now that was not fair to them. Now they (foreign-born players) are already set to be walking on egg shells, even before they were even call-upon or set foot in the country to join the team.

So, when man and man ago publish this inna the paper say they will not be treated any different. That's not a nice way to welcome anyone, I never see any announcement or read it anywhere when these last few local-based players (Stevens and co. for an example) were added to the team for the Ecuador and Columbia game....so why are we denouncing the foreign-based players?

Mi a beg unuh please nuh badda pressure the man dem head by scaring them off boss. So, don't start to judge them so soon already, just have you things in order and ready with what you want them fi follow, these guys are professionals...some of them have been sign to professional system, some from at the very tender age of five...ask or research the thing fi unuh self. Take for example a player like Sturridge....they are tactical and technically more than capable. You be humble and just lay out a professional platform so that the transition will be smooth for these lads, because what I'm greatly concern of, is the fact that you guys will be so deeply admiring there professionalism that you all will be loosing control and then start to think that they are acting like they know it all or think they are above the National program. "Mi know how unuh tan aready done a yard deh!"

Also, another thing that I'm concern about is how backward they (Foreign-based players) may think the National program settings is, when compared to their up bringing. So, while you guys are saying no one will be treated differently, I'm saying allow yourself some room for understanding and know how to treat professionals...you should have long gone for years, started the process of trickling the foreign-based players especially the new recruits into the squad one by one, so that when the first balla come in and see the system and settle in, him can give the next balla the ropes on how to cope and adjust to 'your' system. Now you will have to deal with different personalities all at once and I'm hoping you will be up for the task. these guys will be ready, "will the National program be ready for them?"

"A sound of doubt and fair of being capable enough to lead a group that consist of professionals is all that I am hearing coming from these voices. Now, the diversity and ubiquitousness is of concern to them, on 'IF' they will be able to manage and lead a team with so much good quality players to produce. And, also to make sure that they can help to maximizes each individual's capability to reach or exceed their international experience or expectations....."

"At this stage in preparation, I'm just hoping that you guys are geared up and ready to go when WCQ comes around next June!!" It must be that. They are aware of the high quality of play that these guys will bring. Don't be scared.


You know B'Love I think some of these notions by the JFF have of the Brits is more perceived than real. Some of the real may have more to do with BRits not accustomed to less than standard infrastructure, an over semi-professional environment to work among semi pro players -I'm mainly speaking of the past Brits not the new generation.

If anything the JFF also needed to assimilate like some of past Brits. Cultural differences, and understanding is something the JFF were naieve about, thinking there wouldn't be some kind of reaction by the players by the football culture shock when arrive Jamaica. The JFF were simply unprepared then and couldn't help the professional Brits assimilate.

more on this in my piece coming up, "PROJECT ENGLAND".....

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Humphrey's impressive start to the season has earned him a call-up to the Jamaican national team - ending any notion of him possibly playing for Scotland - but red tape has delayed his first cap.
It's expected to be sorted in time for the next round of internationals and Humphrey will have Well's new recruit Omar Daley to help him settle into the national set-up.
Daley will have to wait for his Well debut having joined the squad late this week

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 Originally Posted By: Blessed Love
All that the Montesso, the McIntosh, Tappa, the Observer, Horace Burrrel and the Horace Reid a do right now, are things that we are already aware of.....although, it is a good thing that they are coming out of the woods with some info. So, as the saying goes, "better late than never," that must be their number one motto/phrase. Anyway, there's a very little amount of time at hand now, to get the best eligible players to sort out their paper work and thing, then to get on-board and start working together, so that they can gel and build good team chemistry. So, guys what we are waiting for is the "action," to see the program get off the ground, and that's when we will start to see you guys using our top class quality players on the field, and in games.

"We can reap success by having a very good team that can compete with high standards of play, from a steady infusion of new talented players into the squad, and not a bag of mouth....talk is cheap!!!" Let's go!!

Now! on the other hand, have you notice what they have already started on the foreign-based players? They're already saying that the foreign-based players will not be treated any different from the local-based players, but my question to them is, "then why are they treated differently by "you"in the first place?" Because, from my observations they were not giving the same share to equal opportunity, to have time to gel in the system like the other set of players we have been stooping-down to their levels for over some two years now, trying to force them into suppen that they are not ready for. Also, to include the other new local-based recruits and not the foreign-based recruits, especially the (foreign-born), that was not fair to them. Now they (foreign-born players) are already set to be walking on egg shells, before they were even call-upon or set foot in the country to join the team.

So, when man and man ago publish this inna the paper say they will not be treated any different. That's not a nice way to welcome anyone. I never see any announcement or read anything like this anywhere when these last few local-based players, or the ones before (Stevens and co. for an example) were added to the team for the Ecuador and Columbia game....so why are we denouncing the foreign-based players?

Mi a beg unuh please nuh badda pressure the man dem head by scaring them off boss. So, don't start to judge them so soon already, just have you things in order and ready with what you want them fi follow, these guys are professionals...some of them have been sign to professional system, from at a very early age as five...ask or research the thing fi unuh self. Take for example a player like Sturridge....they are tactical and technically sound, and more than capable. You guys should be humble and feel honored to have the abundance of so much quality of players to our disposal, and we should just take advantage of the opportunity while we can, and be prepare and ready to lay out a professional platform, so that the transition will be smooth for these lads, because what I'm greatly concern about is, the fact that you guys will be so deeply admiring their professionalism that you all will be loosing control, and then start to think that they are acting like they know it all or think they are above the National program. "Mi know how unuh tan aready done a yard deh!"

Also, another thing that I'm concern about is how backward they (Foreign-based players) may think the National program settings is, when compared to their up bringing. So, while you guys are saying no one will be treated differently, I'm saying allow yourself some room for understanding, and be professional and get to know these individuals first, and their own unique personality before anything. And most importantly, know how to treat and approach professionals as, " professionals" aught to be treated and that is like, " professionals" and Not like, "amateurs...." By now, the program should have been long gone ahead in, the process of trickling in the foreign-based players, especially the new recruits into the squad one by one for years now, so that when the first balla come in and see the system and settle in, him can give the next balla the ropes on how to cope and adjust to 'your' system.

Now you will have to deal with different personalities all at once, and I'm hoping you all will be up for the task. these guys will be fundamentally ready, "will the National program be ready for them?"

"A sound of doubt and fair of Not being capable enough to lead a group that consist of professionals is all that I am hearing coming from these voices. Now, the diversity and ubiquitousness is of concern to them, on 'IF' they will be able to manage and lead a team with so much good quality players to produce. And, also to make sure that they can help to maximizes each individual's capability to reach or exceed their international experience or expectations....."

"At this stage in preparation, I'm just hoping that you guys are geared up and ready to go when WCQ comes around next June!!" It must be that. They are aware of the high quality of play that these guys will bring. Don't be scared. "Be prepared..!!"

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I have been very watchful of the winning records, on all national team levels since Montesso arrival in the program: U20, U23-Olympic, Senior team-GC tourney, and friendlies.....0___o

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Can a group of leaders and policy makers be so stupid. Every person will try to maximise their own self interest. The butcher dont put meat on ur plate because he is doin u a favour. Now these ediots dont even kno how to maximise their own self interest. Its obvious that they are using the national program to get their club ballas overseas contract so that they can make some money. But wldnt they achieve that easier if they integrate these club ballas slowly into a solid national team?


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Peeps should have had some clue as to what Burrell & co was up to when the rumpus kick off at the DCC tournament over money and the JFF come wid dem likkle contract business, which did kick off another rumpus between dem and Seaga.

Its obvious now why no UK-born ballas haven't been called up before now; questions regarding this 'contract' ting is going to be an issue, as I pointed out at the time and the JFF won't make any transfer money off them LOL !

I'm sure none of Jamaica's home-grown UK ballas have signed any contract either; Wily Boo said he hadn't signed anything and he's turned down numerous invitations from the JFF because of club committments.

Its an astonishing statement by this guy McIntosh when taken in context but...

As long as the JFF have Tappa as dem 'fall guy' the blame will never stick on them.

The two Horaces mussi get 'red eye' wen dem see Tivoli mek a 'change' off Dada Daley so dem afi pack up di side wid dem Portmore balla dem hoping fi get a 'bly'.

The plan backfire so now is time to re-think and re-tool...

The eternal story of Jamaican football... sighhhhh!

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I hope Tappa see the writing on the wall and is updating his resume.

Unless he wins every game by less than 3 goals there will be call for his dismissal, reasoning that he can't coach true professionals.

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 Originally Posted By: pelepapa
I hope Tappa see the writing on the wall and is updating his resume.

Unless he wins every game by less than 3 goals there will be call for his dismissal, reasoning that he can't coach true professionals.


If he can't coach professionals, he can't coach at international level, period.

He obviously can't coach amateurs/semi-pros to be any better than their natural talent and abilities allow and its proven that he can't build a strong or successful team with these players...and this is from his own admittance, not just the opinions of most on this forum and out there in the genral public of Jamaica's football supporters.

Looks like the professionals are the only chance of Tappa saving his job; no one cares what the scoreline is, as long as Jamaica wins the matches that we should win, draw the matches that we can't win and lose as few matches as possible...

That is the recipe for a football coach to keep his job from the football side of things, leaving politics out of the picture.

If Jamaica continues on this losing streak, Tappa will lose his job anyway, so he'd better hope that the 'foreign balla' recipe works out better than the 'local balla' recipe has, for his own sake.

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But the Gold Cup squad was loaded with professionals. The only four(4) semi-pros and/or local ballas in the Gold Cup squad:

Eric Vernan
Keammar Daley
Adrian Reid
Navion Boyd


Tappa knows how to coach professionals!!!

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 Originally Posted By: pelepapa
I hope Tappa see the writing on the wall and is updating his resume.

Unless he wins every game by less than 3 goals there will be call for his dismissal, reasoning that he can't coach true professionals.


If he can't coach professionals, he can't coach at international level, period.

He obviously can't coach amateurs/semi-pros to be any better than their natural talent and abilities allow and its proven that he can't build a strong or successful team with these players...and this is from his own admittance, not just the opinions of most on this forum and out there in the genral public of Jamaica's football supporters.

Looks like the professionals are the only chance of Tappa saving his job; no one cares what the scoreline is, as long as Jamaica wins the matches that we should win, draw the matches that we can't win and lose as few matches as possible...

That is the recipe for a football coach to keep his job from the football side of things, leaving politics out of the picture.

If Jamaica continues on this losing streak, Tappa will lose his job anyway, so he'd better hope that the 'foreign balla' recipe works out better than the 'local balla' recipe has, for his own sake.


It should've read "unless he wins every game by no less than 3 goals".

Ric I am all for the recipe of a football coach to keep his job. What should concern Tappa is not the recipe, but who is doing the tasting. Here you are saying that one part of the recipe is that JA draw the matches they can't win when you should know good and well that you've never seen or will ever see a match JA shouldn't win, but for some blunder from the overmatched coach. That's called a no-win situation.

Tappa start finding community services to involve yourself in to pad your resume and keep yourself current by familiarizing yourself with Wenger's statistical products so you can impress on interviews. \:\)

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Tappa is a young coach, so he needs to prepare himself for a lucrative coaching career after this stint as national team coach.

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 Originally Posted By: pelepapa
I hope Tappa see the writing on the wall and is updating his resume.

Unless he wins every game by less than 3 goals there will be call for his dismissal, reasoning that he can't coach true professionals.


If he can't coach professionals, he can't coach at international level, period.

He obviously can't coach amateurs/semi-pros to be any better than their natural talent and abilities allow and its proven that he can't build a strong or successful team with these players...and this is from his own admittance, not just the opinions of most on this forum and out there in the genral public of Jamaica's football supporters.

Looks like the professionals are the only chance of Tappa saving his job; no one cares what the scoreline is, as long as Jamaica wins the matches that we should win, draw the matches that we can't win and lose as few matches as possible...

That is the recipe for a football coach to keep his job from the football side of things, leaving politics out of the picture.

If Jamaica continues on this losing streak, Tappa will lose his job anyway, so he'd better hope that the 'foreign balla' recipe works out better than the 'local balla' recipe has, for his own sake.


It should've read "unless he wins every game by no less than 3 goals".

Ric I am all for the recipe of a football coach to keep his job. What should concern Tappa is not the recipe, but who is doing the tasting. Here you are saying that one part of the recipe is that JA draw the matches they can't win when you should know good and well that you've never seen or will ever see a match JA shouldn't win, but for some blunder from the overmatched coach. That's called a no-win situation.

Tappa start finding community services to involve yourself in to pad your resume and keep yourself current by familiarizing yourself with Wenger's statistical products so you can impress on interviews. \:\)


Pelepappa

Mi hafi laugh aloud at this one \:D

I'm no starry-eyed Jamaican football supporter; I've been around and involved in football for a long time now so...

I can point out many match-ups with stronger teams that I would not realistically expect Jamaica to win...regardless of how strong a side Jamaica had on the field on the given day.

Eg. even with our strongest side, I don't expect Jmaica to beat a top-10 side in the world...France 98 proved that undoubtedly...Jamaica at its best but still losing 5-0 to Argentina, a very good Argetina, btw.

What we can also realistically not expect is that a sub-par Jamaica side to not lose to sides that a very strong Jamaica side can realistically beat; there is no excuse for Jamaica not recognising the limitations and strengths of all the players who can potentially represent Jamaica.

This is where the USA has Jamaica by the short and curlies; extensive research, communication and preparation of ALL the players who can potentially represent the USA...leaving no option unexplored.

A strong Jamaica side should be able to hold its own with sides outside FIFA's top 10 and definitely beat most of the teams below them, barring the possible upset result.

I put a strong Jamaica side on par with the best of the African sides right now, except maybe Ghana, who are really exceptional now.

A weak Jamaica side, which is what we have been seeing for the last 2 years since Tappa took over, will lose consistently against teams that a strong Jamaica side should be either beating or drawing with.

I'll use the USA as an example again...when do you ever see the USA take the field with a squad made up predominantly of MLS players ? NEVER....why?

Because the USA knows and accepts its place in world football as a side that has very little to risk because they know they are not one of the world's top teams so they must make every single opportunity and advantage count...

And they see the injection of their foreign-born players as a way of building a strong side to help their home-based players become better...without losing matches, FIFA-rankings, and reputation.

What Jamaica needs to realise, along with the USA, is that every single loss and every single win or draw counts for much more than it does for the world's top-10 ranked team.

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Pelepappa

Mi hafi laugh aloud at this one \:D

I'm no starry-eyed Jamaican football supporter; I've been around and involved in football for a long time now so...

I can point out many match-ups with stronger teams that I would not realistically expect Jamaica to win...regardless of how strong a side Jamaica had on the field on the given day.

Eg. even with our strongest side, I don't expect Jmaica to beat a top-10 side in the world...France 98 proved that undoubtedly...Jamaica at its best but still losing 5-0 to Argentina, a very good Argetina, btw.

What we can also realistically not expect is that a sub-par Jamaica side to not lose to sides that a very strong Jamaica side can realistically beat; there is no excuse for Jamaica not recognising the limitations and strengths of all the players who can potentially represent Jamaica.

This is where the USA has Jamaica by the short and curlies; extensive research, communication and preparation of ALL the players who can potentially represent the USA...leaving no option unexplored.

A strong Jamaica side should be able to hold its own with sides outside FIFA's top 10 and definitely beat most of the teams below them, barring the possible upset result.

I put a strong Jamaica side on par with the best of the African sides right now, except maybe Ghana, who are really exceptional now.

A weak Jamaica side, which is what we have been seeing for the last 2 years since Tappa took over, will lose consistently against teams that a strong Jamaica side should be either beating or drawing with.

I'll use the USA as an example again...when do you ever see the USA take the field with a squad made up predominantly of MLS players ? NEVER....why?

Because the USA knows and accepts its place in world football as a side that has very little to risk because they know they are not one of the world's top teams so they must make every single opportunity and advantage count...

And they see the injection of their foreign-born players as a way of building a strong side to help their home-based players become better...without losing matches, FIFA-rankings, and reputation.

What Jamaica needs to realise, along with the USA, is that every single loss and every single win or draw counts for much more than it does for the world's top-10 ranked team.


Good talk Ric....

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 Originally Posted By: jamatl
Tappa is a young coach, so he needs to prepare himself for a lucrative coaching career after this stint as national team coach.


HAHA!!! Where? In Barbados? Antigua? Tappa's prospects beyond JA are slim, and his best bet is to learn his craft to the best of his ability and to try and be successful with the national team. But you never know, look at the big job Carl Brown now has.

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 Originally Posted By: distributor1
 Originally Posted By: jamatl
Tappa is a young coach, so he needs to prepare himself for a lucrative coaching career after this stint as national team coach.


HAHA!!! Where? In Barbados? Antigua? Tappa's prospects beyond JA are slim, and his best bet is to learn his craft to the best of his ability and to try and be successful with the national team. But you never know, look at the big job Carl Brown now has.



And we wonder why dem have no black coaches in the EPL or World Cup.

Stuppppsss.................%(

Is only white man should make $$$$ after coaching Jamaica?

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Tappa should try to make contact with Pep Guardiola for something coaching ideas? (even via Bolt)

Learning from your peers never hurts.

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 Originally Posted By: jamatl
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 Originally Posted By: jamatl
Tappa is a young coach, so he needs to prepare himself for a lucrative coaching career after this stint as national team coach.


HAHA!!! Where? In Barbados? Antigua? Tappa's prospects beyond JA are slim, and his best bet is to learn his craft to the best of his ability and to try and be successful with the national team. But you never know, look at the big job Carl Brown now has.



And we wonder why dem have no black coaches in the EPL or World Cup.

Stuppppsss.................%(

Is only white man should make $$$$ after coaching Jamaica?



Tsk Tsk, Jamatl. One thing has nothing to do with the other. Tappa was not a coach of standing before he got the JA job. Most of JA's recent foreign coaches had strong profiles, even though Simoes was a relatively minor figure in Brazil. But he was an exception. How many coaches from the developing world, no matter their race, head teams in the major leagues of world football? And even if Tappa were to be given the chance, he would need to be far more certified and qualified than he is now.

As for the World Cup, we have had those discussions before, and there have been black coaches there in the past -- see Angola and Nigeria, for example. Perhaps if CIV and Nigeria qualify for Brazil their current managers will be there. And if JA qualifies...

I know you are a strong supporter of Tappa, and I have no problem with that, but you must opt for the texts on critical thinking over the ones on self esteem, because they might help you to avoid sophistries such as equating the specifics of Tappa's situation with the EPL, World Cup, and $$$$$. You sound more like his agent every day.

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 Originally Posted By: distributor1
 Originally Posted By: jamatl
Tappa is a young coach, so he needs to prepare himself for a lucrative coaching career after this stint as national team coach.


HAHA!!! Where? In Barbados? Antigua? Tappa's prospects beyond JA are slim, and his best bet is to learn his craft to the best of his ability and to try and be successful with the national team. But you never know, look at the big job Carl Brown now has.


To be honest about, putting things in context, Carl Brown is doing better with what he has to work with, than Tappa is...that is the hallmark of a good coach and...

he's probably being pais better or at least as well as Tappa is for his efforts.

Its all relative.

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 Originally Posted By: distributor1
 Originally Posted By: jamatl
Tappa is a young coach, so he needs to prepare himself for a lucrative coaching career after this stint as national team coach.


HAHA!!! Where? In Barbados? Antigua? Tappa's prospects beyond JA are slim, and his best bet is to learn his craft to the best of his ability and to try and be successful with the national team. But you never know, look at the big job Carl Brown now has.

Hey don't laugh, Andres Villas-Boas first managerial job was in charge of the BVI and look where he is now.

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He also had mentors in Bobby Robson and Jose Mourinho. If Tappa can find those kind of mentors then, maybe....

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