The Reggae Boyz Home Forums Jamaica Reggae Boyz Football Reggae Boyz Soccer Discussions pHoQrY from the half line - Jamaica v Panama 2013-3-22

At first I thought the boys were playing a wait and see posture, as I have alluded to before, the tactics of mistakes, pulling Panama in so they expose their weaknesses. It seemed true to form when we mounted our first attack, and had Panama panicky.

Yet it was an illusion, truth be told, the boys were lethargic, still wearing a defensive posture in a home game, utterly clueless to the task necessary to forge a win. We yet again capitalized on a set piece, and saw it fit to ignore our duties as players to continue concentrating and pressing forth sword in wounded flesh.

The blame falls at the coach's feet. For as he must know, if the team performs well the players get the praise.

So lets analyze his performance first:

The Team: Personally, I had no problem with the team placed on the field, for I believe we had the tools to silence foe.

The Tactic: He started right, and then told Jobi to roam, leaving the left side to Shelton and Phillips. Shelton ignored his defensive duties time and time again, putting Phillips under tremendous pressure, mi did feel so sorry fi him. Austin and Elliott played deep....3 clicks away from the defense, when what was needed was an aggressor. Austin at home should be the aggressor, he pushes the wheel, he churns the engine. Have we not realized that when he slows our team sleeps?

The Changes: I was actually impressed by Taylor, he played excellent, but when Nosworthy got hurt, I'm not sure why Daley came in then. Though Ratty is no one dimensional player, I was kinda surprised with that change. Then replacing Beckford with Robinson was nuts, Shelton was the more lethargic, and Robinson and Shelton play similarly. Then taking off Jobi, the one person who worked consistently ALL over the pitch. I disagreed, Shelton should have been the first replacement, with Teddy coming in at that stage, to apply more pressure. then introduce Theo for Beckford. Else, Shelton should have gone middle when Theo was introduced who then should have taken his position.

But then what do I know.........

I think the most indiscipline player on the field was Shelton. Interestingly, I saw the goal to be his fault. How so? It was because of his back pass, that forced the ball to the middle. He should have cleared the ball upfield and allowed his team to settle. Because of his continuous indiscipline, the Panamanians overloaded our left side, drawing our defense toward that side and then switched...simple tactic that works every time (tactics of mistakes). Omar Daley was wrong footed, he should have fouled, but he just got a yellow card...oh well, the rest is history.

The Panamanians are built like us but they play the tricks of Central Americans, and this is what poses a problem to us. The ticky tacky football and the over exuberance at fouls worked against us. We had nothing, we just sat there and took it, like an overused whore. The outcome as with any whore is?

We should have taken the report that the players training got cut short on Wednesday as a sign.

I feel my half line analysis is filled with lots of emotion so let me revert to my usual style.

Game start, we under presha from get go, we absorbed d presha and buss dem net. We start fi sleep. We lose d boss of d defense, we adjust inna wi sleep, panama trick wi and buss back wi net, game dun.

Mi not too sure why you thought Taylor had an excellent game.
As much a Jobi was all over the place, him never really do anything and teddy was much better.
Some wagonist ask mi if Beckford was Ryan Johnson based on what they were seeing of Beckford and what they have been hearing inn local sports programs about Johnson.

Shelton was a tactical nightmare. No discipline whatsoever.

For the Costa Rica game they should go with the Mexican setup. Bring in Doyley in the defense.

Respect for the report as usual.

My full time JA quick heated fire Thoughts
Ja is terrible. Don't worry Brazil we Going to RIO in portland. Go stadium an hurt my eyes.

Elliot an austin maybe. The most uninspiring mid field duo in history of any sport.
Jamaica NT can't play football beyond teh basic defend and kick long that is just a fact.

It was just vomit worthy performance. We can't pass, we can't shoot.

Panama was way better an they are no good.

Just all around Rubbish.

Forget Brazil live we watching on TVJ.

We pllayed like we were the away side. We can't pass. We can't shoot.

We had odd moment of speed trickry but it was one way all day.

We suck.

Jobi tried and Mccleary over did it. But no one else can control a ball. Shelton is just the odd burst the man has the intelligence of a ball boy with his eyes close.

Demar what a hilarious performance.

Beckford. Looked anxious.

The team has no proper shape on ball and the movement an passes is prep school football level.

Yes the ref was atrocious but that still does not excuse are inability to coordinate consistent attacks.
Panama skill level is beyond our players and there patterns especially when the 10 came on were deadly.
How many times is Shelton going to dummy fake a long ball.

We have to organize the team better going forward. The team is mismatch.

What did they spend a week doing? And we play a hour late in all areas of our game. Tappa must have told them the late one gets there first.

Like it is clear the plan is very basic and our English based players are trying to freestyle it.
As i said vs mexico it is one thing when you kno you going to defend and work hard. It is another when you now have to be the team doing the forward thinking.

Like Christ what is the system exactly.
Why on such a limited width field we cant get close to there players. When we have it if not for the odd burst of pacy dribble behind the press we would have no attacks.

And why the hell do we pass to shelton all the time down the left. The ball just kept going to him an aside from the rear burst of pace he was just dodging the ball. The man hold up play was reminiscent of dodge ball. McCleary was screaming for the ball often so when he did get it he would over do it as we had no fullback overlapping and no midfielder who can handle the ball and Jobi was trying to figure out where best to play.

Thanks for the insight pHoQry.. The turn out by the fans seem impressive on my computer. Was that the case?

As you rightly stated the team looked tired and void of ideas last night. I don't know what the problem is but I hope Tappa and company figure it out sooner, as in by Tuesday morning.

I will have to disagree with you on JT's performance though. I thought he looked clueless and apprehensive back there especially when playing at wingback. However, he did step up when they had to replace Nosworthy. Of course I thought Tappa would have brought on Doyley at this point but he opted for Daley. Ratty came in and did not do that bad. He appeared a lot more comfortable on the ball than JT at that position.

The midfield was none existent and the fact that Panama only had only a few clear chances suggest that the defenders did a bit better than we think. With two defensive mid I could not understand how Panama had so much time and space. They moved the ball more effectively and consistently than we did. Fact is, they looked like the home team.

The only time we looked threatening is during spells of individual runs. This fact gives credence to the argument that we looked nothing like a team last night. I don't know if the new influx of players has troubled the team chemistry and if that is the case, then this one point may be a blessing. However, based on our last few outings, to include the Caribbean Cup, the team have seem off and not in sync.

I pray and hope we can leave CR with a point. We need to go there and lock shop. I think we should pack the middle of the field with one player up top.

Stadium did ram, people all a tek flight like birds to get in, with ticket in hand...

Ratty is more mobile, I agree with you there, we all have a challenge with Taylor being in the Right back position because of his immobility, but I didn't think he did bad because he wasn't under any pressure. He had little to do, and distributed the ball well...

I think ratty needs to be in the team starting in the next game. McAnuff, McCleary , Austin and Elliot all take time to control pass and move off the ball, making quick passing exchanges almost impossible. Ratty on the hand was passing crisply and moving right away to support the one two in similar fashion to the Panamanians

That is the most packed I have seen stadium for a football game in a long while. And you didn't have too many people jumping the wall.

Right...LOL. Memba dem days wen man a dodge security an scale 20 ft wall. Yard folks nuh easy to rahtid.

I think we need to have a little more respect for our national coach despite our disagreeing with some of the things he did.

And I going to disagree with nuff a unooh now. There is no way Tappa would have known that Daley was going to front the forward and get turned before he went on the field. PLEASE REMEMBER THAT THAT IS THE ONLY SIGNIFICANT ERROR DALEY MADE!

What was the big problem before daley went on the field? Answer: we weren't knocking it around. No possession in the middle or final third. As I'm at pains to tell all yall who would prefer to be like England when the foolishly started Sol Campbell at right back, POSSESSION starts from the back. Especially out wide at the back. therefore if your wingbacks cannot link up. you get fuukk. So JA started Peelhead as the outlet. But He was having a bad game. Then the Bigman got injured. It was only natural to make sure that somebody coming on could start coherent attacks - he did that as sooon as he came on!
the fact that most a unnuh cannot see that, speaks to how difficult it is to be a coach and to the fact that unnu a cusss whitmore for the wrong things! That change was inspired. Where Tappa made the mistake is starting Taylor over Doyley! It meant we were fuukking stuck with JT for the whole game. If Doyley had started he could have moved to center back, where he plays some times.
Unnuuh watch over the game! look at how much better Rat looked covering the right than fuukking taylor! Both in defense and attack. Can't believe that thats what unnuu vex bout. And the goal wasn't Daley's fault either. He had the right to try and front the player with two defenders for cover right behind him.


[b]The big fukkkry last night was moving Jobi from left wing[b/] I watched them in training. Jobi and Demar were forging a lovely defensive and attacking partnership on the left. WE ALL WATCHED A MAN U GAME ONE WEEK PRIOR WHERE IT WAS CLEAR THAT JOBI IS OK ANYWHERE BUT IS BEST ON THE LEFT. How the fukkk did Shelton start on that side?!!!!! Why?
Shelton had a passing grade in a match against New Zealand on the left and he still left Demar exposed repeatedly. Then he had nightmares throughout 2012 in that position. Anybody remember how poor he was away in Panama last year June? I honestly never ever ever ever thought I'd see shelton on the left again. He can tackle but he cannot track other players for shit! and He has no clue in delivering telling crosses. Bottom line if Shelton Plays for me he plays as a central striker or none at all - he is no Thierry Henry to come in from the left.

CHANGES:

I've already said that Tappa realised we needed to change things when Nuggsy got injured. Pity that most of you guys obviously thought we were playing well. lol. Would have just stuck Doyley in to right back - but he's also a conservative player. If we'd done that, the best that might have happened is that he'd lock down that side. But our play would have been uglier still. We may have won 1-0.....or they may have scored from the numerous corner's and deep throws that Panama would have gotten when Doyley plug our right side.

pHoQry said that he thought Teddy should have come in early. Based on what I saw, Teddy should have STARTED in Jobi's position and Jobi play in Shelton's. Luton should never have seen man bludClart feild. I said as much before the game on this forum.

Theo's energy was a breath of fresh air and was a good change. Beckford was nervous but grew into his role. Still some match fitness to attain.

Panama played very well. And our central midfield looked a bit lethargic. Again, that could not be predicted so I don't blame Tappa for that. He however didn't set up his side neither to possess nor to counter attack effectively and ended up doing neither very well. Given how unexpectedly flat Tappa's team came out, I would have given him very high marks for his adjustments IF HE HAD NOT [censored] STARTED SHELTON on the left for him to lose so many balls and cause the turnover that led to the goal.....that's just unforgivable. I'm now fretting. What is Tappa seeing that we not seeing? How could he be so dogged about sticking Shelton out on the left? Does it mean that he'll do it again?!!!!! God forbid. I'm now left to pray that good sense will prevail.








Edited by mrexperience (03/23/13 09:52 AM)

BTW pHqry I really tried hard to find you. But I realised I didn't know whether the 'left' to which you referred was your left looking on the field or the half line's left. I ended up seeing Ohene at the half line who was founder of Reggae boyz supporters club. The isles were absolutely ram anyway. Took may half hour to get up there. lol.

i believe we will get on right on the 26th, shelton is lazy and not sharp enough, imo, we need matocks to replace him...yes, tappa made some minor changes and he must rezlize his mistakes. i want to see beckford and ryan johnson upfront next game.

we and mexicon in the same boat. i think they will beat the yanks and then it will be up to us to beat costa rica convincingly and hope honduras and panama tie

And and a win by the Ticos against Jamaica on Tuesday, March 26, 2013 in San Jose', Costa Rica will do what for the Reggae Boyz, their supporters and coach Tappa?

Let me guess?...Maybe Tappa's execution at high noon?????

Remember February 6, 2013, Panama City, Panama.... Costa Rica and Panama played to a 2-2 draw.

Beating Costa Rica, this coming Tuesday March 26, 2013 in San Jose', Costa Rica, is a whole lot easier said than done!!!!!!!!.

Let us hope Costa Rica is demoralized after the us stole the game against them.

i know but we have no other choice thats why i say tappa beter get it right

But then what do I know.........


You know a whole lot more than this idiaat of a coach that we have coaching wi Reggaeboyz national team...that's for sure.

Just shoving Luton Shelton into the starting line-up and shifting players around to accomodate him sheg up Jamaica's entire game...

And it come in like sey this goat coach thought that he could underestimate an disrespect Panama by 'experimenting' against them.

What a f*k*n fool he is !

Jah know bredda Ric, watch your temper...do me a favor nuh, do a compare and contrast on the Jamaica vs Panama (home) and Antigua & Barbuda vs Jamaica (away). Tell me what are your findings sir...could you enlighten me on why the display for both matches seem so similar irrespective of the quality we had on the football field?

Phqry spot on analysis, I was in the bleacher top row which part some people did inna some red shirts. Mi did a look if mi spot the i star base pon the shirt weh u said u wld be wearing but stadium did pack. All now mi still have me ticket. Finally i see someone with as assessment of shelton similar to mine. He was by far the worst player on the field and shld have been the first change. I cannot remember the last time he had a good game for jamaica. The team really needed a playmaker. Beckford looked dangerous whenever he gets the ball and i wld av love to have had someone on the field who cld put some ball at his feet. Austin for me also had a poor game, passing was poor, very slow etc, but every playr will have a bad game once in a while. Base of how the game was progressin hue wld have been my first change. 1 its a home game, 2 the stadium wld a mash up if hue came on and that cld have had a positive impct on his game, 3 the game needed someone who cld thread thru some balls to becford. My second change wld av been teddy, a stadium we deh unnu kno the ting. I wld have taken out shelton and austin.

But the game gone aready, only thing we can do is try get tings rite goin forward. Two game two points, not all bad. I am still confident in the team and the team has my full support. Lets us as supporters be more level headed, wen the team win everybody jump up saying the team wicked, dem lose or av a bad game the same people dem jump up saying the team is the worst they av seem

Very interesting bossy, at half time I made the foolish err of seeking a bathroom and ended up watching the second half infront of the tunnel...

I love your idea, very creative...i wonder if we will ever see this level of outta the box thinking....

The most important thread I can see for those two is an underperforming Shelton at left wing.